Should you vote based on religion?//

Image via – The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

Since I’m writing this on the Sabbath and since religion seems to be playing a bigger part in this election than is normally the case, I thought I would make a few comments about religion and politics.  I read an article this morning about how some black clergy are in a quandary over how to direct their parishioners to vote.  They cannot support Obama because of his stance on gay marriage and they cannot support Romney because of a Mormon doctrinal issue, since rescinded, that black men could not hold the priesthood.  All I can say about this is that it is no longer the doctrine of the Mormon Church and has not been for over 3 decades.  If you question the possibility that the Mormon Church is free of racism then I suggest you ask any black member.  (Mia Love might be a good place to start).

Considering whether religion should be a factor in your vote, I say that Character and Integrity should be a factor, but not religion.  How well a candidate adheres to his religious beliefs should be a factor but not the religion itself.  This is an indication of character.  As a Mormon, I have voted for lots of candidates that did not share my religious belief. Continue reading

LDS Church Issues Response to California Supreme Court Decision on Proposition 8//

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SALT LAKE CITY 26 May 2009 Today’s decision by the California Supreme Court is welcome. The issue the court decided was whether California citizens validly exercised their right to amend their own constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman. The court has overwhelmingly affirmed their action.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints recognizes the deeply held feelings on both sides, but strongly affirms its belief that marriage should be between a man and a woman.  The bedrock institution of marriage between a man and a woman has profound implications for our society. These implications range from what our children are taught in schools to individual and collective freedom of religious expression and practice.

Accordingly, the Church stands firmly for what it believes is right for the health and well-being of society as a whole. In doing so, it once again affirms that all of us are children of God, and all deserve to be treated with respect. The Church believes that serious discussion of these issues is not helped when extreme elements on both sides of the debate demonize the other.

I am proud and very grateful to be a member of this Church, where our leaders remind and encourage us to all love and respect each other, and treat each other with kindness, despite our differing opinions.


Constitutional Rights at issue//google map puts prop 8 donors info on public display and tom hanks attacks mormons


The Prop 8 map looks similar to this with markers for donors listing name, address, employment and amount of donation (this map is of film shoot locations)

Google maps is a great application! I love it and I use it all the time for real estate investing and to cyber stalk properties that are far away. Problem is, perhaps google maps is too good and too useful. The no on 8 camp thinks that we’re cowards for not wanting a map of our houses and job information to be on public display on the world’s most popular map, courtesy of google.  They didn’t create the mash-up but they haven’t taken it down either. (I am not giving the site’s web address here. I don’t want to do anything to encourage it).

The word coward definitely applies to the anonymous creater of this map that puts a virtual push-pin on the locations for practically everyone who donated money to the Yes on 8 campaign. It’s not cowardly for people not to want their private information made public. They have families to protect from the scathing, vulgar and violent harassment of the traditional marriage dissenters. People have been harassed, yelled at, threatened, and intimidated, all because the campaign finance data was made public, exposing the names, addresses and occupations of people who supported Prop 8.  No one needs gay stalkers driving past their house everyday harassing them for exercising their constitutional right to donate to a cause they believe in and vote according to their beliefs. The gay left can do that and it’s ok, but we’re cowards and bigots for trying to protect traditional marriage. Oh really? So far, no one has come forth to claim their map fame, and no one has been able to figure out who it is. My inside contact in the  world of internet hackers, says it would be a piece of cake for someone to figure out who did this. . . so I’m sure it will come out sooner or later. I’ll keep you posted. Does this person have a legal right to take the public doner list and make a map, I guess so, but is it ethical, and moral? Definitely not. Bill O’Reilly is apparently outraged about this map and he promised to dig deeper into the situation. …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

Tom Hanks calls Mormon’s Un-American

A lot of Hollywood has proven themselves to be quite a disappointment since the fight for Prop 8 began, and we can now add Tom Hanks to the list of unformed activists. He is the producer of HBO’s bizarro polygamist show “Big Love.” And at the show’s premiere last Wednesday, proceeded to say this to the press:

“The truth is this takes place in Utah, the truth is these people are some bizarre offshoot of the Mormon Church, and the truth is a lot of Mormons gave a lot of money to the church to make Prop-8 happen,” he told Tarts. “There are a lot of people who feel that is un-American, and I am one of them. I do not like to see any discrimination codified on any piece of paper, any of the 50 states in America, but here’s what happens now. A little bit of light can be shed, and people can see who’s responsible, and that can motivate the next go around of our self correcting Constitution, and hopefully we can move forward instead of backwards. So let’s have faith in not only the American, but Californian, constitutional process.”

First of all, the people portrayed in his show are not members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

[Mormon’s] officially ceased the practice of such marriages after the Manifesto was issued by President Woodruff in 1890. Since that time, plural marriage has not been approved by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and any member adopting this practice is subject to losing his or her membership in the Church. Source:

Secondly, supporters of Prop 8 did not give money to the Church, they gave their donations directly to the Proposition 8 campaign, just like everyone else who donated. The truth is that the Church did not give any money to the campaign, the members did, along with thousands of people of other faiths. Voting your conscience on Proposition 8 is not un-American. Hanks is going on and on about the Constitutional process, but yet he is berating Mormon’s for exercising their constitutional rights  to participate in said constitutional process. Now that’s un-American.

When informed of the “Forrest Gump” star’s comments, Kim Farah, a spokesperson for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, told Tarts, “Expressing an opinion in a free and democratic society is as American as it gets.”

Bill McKeever, a rep for the Mormonism Research Ministry, added, “Personally, I find it un-American to tell people that they shouldn’t vote their conscience. Hanks said he doesn’t ‘like to see any discrimination codified on any piece of paper.’ Considering that just about every law discriminates in some form or another, makes this comment ridiculous. Hanks’ comment shows that he very much believes in discriminating against people with whom he disagrees. I may not agree with Mormon theology, but I certainly defend their right to express their opinion.”

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{ Signal Hill politician is targeted by Prop. 8 foes }

It appears that “The Day Without a Gay” drama is just heating up. Opponents of Proposition 8 are planning to rally in front of Signal Hill City Hall on Wednesday in and effort to,

rally in support of a possible recall petition of city Treasurer Emerson Fersch. The rally is part of the national “Day Without A Gay” action, in which gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people are asked to take off work in opposition to Proposition 8.

Fersch, who is an elected official and is a bishop in the Mormon church, gave $3,285 in support of Proposition 8. That hasn’t gone over well with Long Beach’s or Signal Hill’s gay and lesbian communities.

I am so appalled by this article and the notion that one’s religious beliefs have to be separate from any job they may perform, in public service or otherwise. One might be correct in thinking that this man’s integrity, honesty and moral character is perhaps what the public was drawn to when electing him in the first place, and now, just because gays don’t happen to agree with his position on Prop. 8, is no reason to have him recalled.
Read more here. . .